News Readers: TIN


    News Groups

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_groups ] News groups provide an on-line forum for countless topics, ranging from Celtic culture to the latest computer operating systems. Rather than having the messages sent to your email address (as with a listserver), the messages are sent to an intermediary computer which stores them and allows you to access them. Essentially, these news readers are clients, software which allows you to access the news groups you want. This document provides an introduction to using news readers such as tin to participate in news groups. You will read how to subscribe to and read news groups, how to unsubscribe from a news group, and how to post messages to them, as well as how to save messages from a news group to your home directory on isis.unc.edu. You should enter commands printed in bold in this document exactly as printed. Keys and key combinations are represented by the use of boldface.

    Help

If you have question about using news groups, please contact the ITS Response Center located on the lower level of the R B House (Undergraduate) Library. You can get in touch with the Response Center staff by walking over to the Undergraduate Library, by calling (919) 962-HELP or by [ http://www.unc.edu/ar-bin/websub/index.pl ] submitting an online request for help.

    News Group Listings

News group names are hierarchically organized from general to specific. The first level is the most general, the second level is more specific, and so on. News group names can have five or more levels, although most have two or three. The first level shows the main topic of the news group, as indicated by the following chart:

  • alt : news groups on alternative topics, some of which can be bizarre

  • comp : computer related news

  • misc : miscellaneous news groups

  • news : discussion of news groups and news group related software

  • rec : discussion of recreation: hobbies, sports, the arts, etc.

  • sci : science-related news groups

  • soc : news groups related to social topics ranging from particular cultures to politics to sociology

  • talk : debates on various topics

This list contains the most common types of news groups, but it is by no means complete. The exact nature of a news group is difficult to predict judging only by its name. Some news groups that sound interesting have poor discussions or few postings. On the other hand, you will be able to avoid news groups that don't interest you simply by looking at their names. The only really effective way of determining the nature of a news group is to read the postings for a while and see for yourself. Be aware that most of the news groups on the Internet are not moderated -- anyone can post anything he or she wants! Often, you will find news articles or even whole groups that offend you. You can usually tell ahead of time that this is the case and avoid the offending material.

    Flame Wars and Other Appropriate Use Considerations

If you don't like to receive abuse in your mail box, a few rules will help you when you start posting news articles of your own:

  1. Only send articles to the news group(s) in which the articles will make sense. For example, posting an article about your rebuild of that retro '66 VW Wagon you found on the web is great, but make sure you post the article to an automobile news group (there is actually one on VWs alone). Do NOT post such an article to a news group on science related issues.

  2. Do not try to run a business on the Internet. This is a big no-no and will get you in trouble with the local authorities. You can, however, sell and buy things as an individual in the appropriate marketplace news groups. For example, selling your old bike is fine in the triangle.marketplace news group; however, advertising your services as a tattoo artist in every news group on the Internet would lead to trouble.

  3. Be wary of arguments. Some people will agree with your position, and some will disagree. A few of those people that disagree with you may become quite volatile, and may "flame" you. This means they will post articles that attack you personally and comment in detail upon your many faults.

    Caution

    Every article you post includes your email address. Once you enter a "flame war" (i.e., start a fight with someone on a newsgroup), expect personal emails by the zillion.

  4. There is a dark side to news groups. Resist the lure of the Dark Side. Many postings in news groups will offend you, and not all of them need obey U.S. law and norms (the Internet is global, after all). Avoid the stuff that offends you, and you will be much happier. If you do find particularly ugly or harassing articles in a news group, you can write a letter to your local postmaster to ask questions about it (or file a complaint). The address for UNC is

    Getting Started with Tin

One way to access news groups is through tin , a news reader available on isis.unc.edu. To begin tin , simply select the option Read News (Tin) from the Isis Menu or type tin at the prompt and press Enter . Be sure to use lower-case when entering the command.

tin will first load your news groups; the first time you enter tin you won't have any, so this shouldn't take long. You will then enter tin at the first of its four reading levels: the news group selection page. The first time you use tin there will not be any list because you haven't yet subscribed to any news groups. When you start tin subsequently, this page will show just news groups that have been added since you last read news.

    Subscribing to News groups

In the news group selection page, you'll see a list of news groups. Each group is initially marked in the left-hand column with a u , which indicates that you are unsubscribed to the group. To subscribe, use the up and down arrow keys or j (line down) and k (line up) keys to select the group name and press s . Once you have selected all the groups you wish to subscribe to, press y (for yank in/out) to move to the second level: the group index page. Note that if you ever want to find more news groups you can come back to the news group selection page, where you can look through available news groups and pick the ones you want to read.

    Searching for News Groups

Since there are thousands of news groups, a faster way to find groups you might be interested in is to search for them. Press the / key and enter a search string. For example, if you press the / key to begin your search and type the word biology , tin will cycle you through news groups related to biology. To repeatedly search for more groups that match the word biology , just keep pressing the / key and then pressing Return . It remembers your recent search, so you don't have to type biology again.

    Unsubscribing from News Groups

You can unsubscribe from news groups from the Group Index page. Use the up and down arrows or j (line down) and k (line up) or type the number of the news group and press Return to move to the group you want to remove from your list; note that the cursor just flashes briefly in the left hand column, so you have to watch to see where you are. To remove a group, type u. tin will mark that entry with a u on the far left hand column. The next time you use tin that group will not appear on the news group list.

    Getting Help

tin has good on-screen help. At any time, you can enter h to receive a list of commands and a description of what action they perform.

    Reading Articles in tin

    The Group Index Page

Once you have selected some news groups that you want to read and have pressed y (for yank in/out), you'll move to the group index page, which displays all the groups you are subscribed to. The groups are numbered; next to the number of the group is the number of unread postings in the group; then comes the group name; and finally there is an optional group description. You can enter a group by selecting it (the fastest way is to enter the number) and pressing Return or the right arrow key . You will see a list of articles, along with the names of the people who posted them. To read an article, select it and press the r ight arrow key to start reading. At any time, you may exit an article by pressing the left arrow key ; this will return you to the article selection mode. To move up and down through an article, use your up and down arrow keys . A sample article listing looks like this:

11 + 6 Isn't Tin Great???
        Yung Jin Chew

From left to right, you will see a number for the article, a '+' (which means you haven't read it), a number which indicates how many people have responded (see below on threads), a subject line, and the name of the article's author. After you've looked at an article, the '+' disappears.

    Threads

Often articles posted to news groups will get many responses. The original article and all its responses are grouped together in tin . Collectively, these articles are known as a thread . You can think of them as a conversation on a certain topic. When you look at threads in tin , they look like this:

1 + 38 Origin - CD-only
        forever! Yung Jin Chew

The '38' indicates that there are currently 38 unread articles in this thread. To read a thread, select the article and press the right arrow key . The first article will then appear. To go to the subsequent articles, either press the down arrow key (this moves you through the thread one page of text at a time) or press n to skip the article you're reading and move on to the next one. To get back to a list of the news groups articles and threads, simply press q at any time.

    Saving, Mailing, and Printing

You should learn how to save articles to your Unix account because they have a limited life span in the news group (about 2 weeks). To save disk space, all articles get deleted when they are old, and then you can't read them. To save an article to your account at any point when you are reading it, press s . tin will then ask you if you want to save the entire thread or the single article, and also what you want to name the file. Saved articles are automatically placed in your News subdirectory. If you want to read saved articles, exit tin , change ( cd ) to the News directory, and call up your favorite editor, like pico, or just use the more or less commands. If the foregoing sentence made your head hurt, you probably need to grab the handout entitled UNIX: Getting Started (cus01) to learn some basic Unix commands. To email an article or thread, press m for mail. You will be asked

Mail a)rticle, t)hread,
        h)ot, p)attern, T)agged articles, q)uit:

Press the corresponding letter to what it is you want to send, and enter the email address you want to send the information to. Similarly, press o to print the article or thread to your local printer.

    Searching

Searching at the article level works exactly the same as searching for different groups. Simply press the / key and type in a word you want to look for. tin will search every subject line for matches and then move you to the first match. To search for another article that matches your keyword, press the / key again (you'll note it remembers what you are looking for; you don't need to type in your keyword again).

    Responding To and posting Articles in tin

You can send your opinions to the world in three different ways in tin . If you are reading an article and want to respond to the author only, press r at any time while you are reading it. This will automatically address an email message to the article's author and call up your normal email editor. Send the email message like any other. When you're done typing, press Ctrl-x , and you will be asked if you want to q)uit, e)dit, s)end [Re: Word up]:; quit will cancel the message, edit will take you back to the editor screen, and send will, obviously, send the message. The second way to respond to a news article is to send your comments to the entire group. To follow up on an article to the news group, press f at any time while you are reading an article. Finally, if you want to post a new article to the news group which is not in response to another article, enter w at the article selection mode level. The article selection mode level is when you are inside a group looking at all the different articles not looking at a specific article or thread. You will be prompted for a bunch of information about your post, but only two things are essential. First, you must enter a subject when asked. This subject line becomes the title for your article. Second, you must type in the word world when it asks you what the distribution is. If you don't, your post will only go to users in the UNC domain, that is, people with accounts with addresses ending in unc.edu .

    Other News Readers

There are a few other news readers that you can currently use to participate in news groups at UNC. Both Pine and Mozilla Thunderbird allow you to read and post articles while in these non-news group specific applications. Below you can read about using Pine to read news.

    Pine

You can use Pine to read your news groups. Some people prefer this method because it looks just like reading email with Pine.

    Accessing your News groups

Upon entering Pine, type L to access the Folder List. Using the down arrow key or the space bar, scroll below the line which reads:

News on news.unc.edu/nntp
        News groups on news.unc.edu/nntp

Press Return or > to see your news groups. If you have previously accessed news groups with Pine or another news reader, you will see a list of the news groups to which you already subscribe. If you are not subscribed to any groups or want to add a news group, enter a (Add) to be prompted for the name of the news group you wish to access. Enter part or all of the name and Pine will provide a list of possible matches. Scroll down this list using the arrow keys, or use the w (Whereis) command to jump to a specific string. When you find one you wish to join, type s (Subscribe). Pine exits the list and returns you to the Add prompt, with the groupname filled in. Check your selection and press the <Return> key to accept. Once a group is selected, use Return or > (ViewFldr) to access it. You are now in a window similar to Index Folder, with a corresponding set of commands listed at the bottom of the page. Articles will appear as separate messages in the order of most recent posting on top. You can save, export, or post a reply from this menu in the same manner you would save, export, or reply to a personal email message in Pine.

    Accessing Threads

One feature of standard news readers is the ability to thread discussions. These news readers group together all articles pertaining to the same topic, allowing one to follow a conversation by merely selecting the next posting. It is possible to duplicate this feature in Pine, but at a cost. Normally, Pine is set up to sort by date, with the newest letters placed at the top of your INBOX. By entering the Setup screen (press m, to get to the main menu, then s , c ), and pressing the space bar , scroll down until you see the section called sort-key . User the arrow keys to select OrderedSubj and press s to select it. Exit the Setup menu with e (Exit). You do not need to exit Pine for this option to take effect. From this point on, Pine will order the contents of your News groups according to titles. Unfortunately, Pine will also order the contents of your Inbox in this manner, replacing the default ordering by time of arrival. You will need to change the sort key back to arrival to see your Inbox as you did before.

    Replying to a Message

You can respond to an individual or to the whole group, just as in tin . Press R for reply, and then you will be prompted to decide:

Follow-up to news 
        group(s), Reply via email to author or Both?

Choose F, R, or B depending on who is to receive your response.

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